All Small All Tall Craps

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All Small; All Tall; Make ’em All. Prior to the come-out roll, players may place an optional wager on one or more of the three Bonus Craps propositional wagers (i.e., “All Small,” “All Tall,” or “Make ‘Em All”). Each Bonus Craps wager is independent and has no effect on the primary game of Craps or other wagers. ALL SMALL MAKE'EM ALL ALL TALL 34 to 34 to. Title: web9-18 Craps higher pay Created Date: 9/28/2018 2:38:37 PM. The All, Small, or Tall bets are made at the beginning of the shooter's hand - when he first gets the dice. You can bet any or all three of the bets. There are a lot of ways to play it. I've see guys toss out $5 and get $2 each on the Small and Tall and $1 on the All. Actually, some places will allow you to place either the all small or the all tall even after the comeout roll as long as none of those numbers have been hit yet. In other words, if the come out is a 4,5,6, you can still put in an all tall bet. Also, some casinos don't take down the bets on a CO 7. 4 thoughts on “ Small, Tall, Nothing at All: New-To-Us Craps Side Bets ” Chigu September 4, 2018 at 9:04 am. I wish they had the small/all/tall bet in my casino. On back to back throws I had a roll of 19 and then 29. I hit all small with the 19 rolls, and hit the ALL with the 29 rolls. Would have been an even better night!! 'Pass Line' Bets.

I'm interested in the true odds on a new bet I saw at Treasure Island this last week. I have not seen it at other casinos.

I think SamsTown on the Boulder Strip has that.

I think SamsTown on the Boulder Strip has that.

In May 2011, was at the Wynn and they now have the 'All, Tall and Small Bet' it on a few of their craps tables.
In my opinion, with the new table felt, it really changed the table characterists. A year ago I was very successful on several of their craps tables.
This year I helped them pay the light bill.
Eagledice

In May 2011, was at the Wynn and they now have the 'All, Tall and Small Bet' it on a few of their craps tables.

Also saw it at the Encore the day after WoVCon I.

Seriously, how does it compare to the Fire Bet?

Not exactly. There are several important differences.
There are three different bets in the All bet series.
Only one bet for FireBet.
A seven on a mid-roll come-out kills the All bets, requiring replacement mid-roll.
FireBets can only be made at the start of a shooter's roll, and don't come down until the shooter sevens-out.
The biggest difference, the All bet is counter to traditional craps betting. I.E. You're not interested in points, but numbers. A seven is always bad.
I saw it last Sept at Wynn. About 10 people at the table, only 1 guy playing it. $5 every 7 - $2 on each of the High and Low, $1 on the All. I was there about half an hour, and he never got paid.

Not exactly. There are several important differences.
There are three different bets in the All bet series.
Only one bet for FireBet.

My mistake. I meant as far as house edge and pay-outs. I realize the mechanics are quite different.

I saw it last Sept at Wynn. About 10 people at the table, only 1 guy playing it. $5 every 7 - $2 on each of the High and Low, $1 on the All. I was there about half an hour, and he never got paid.

Sucker bets are weird. In some games virtually everyone plays them, in some games everyone plays one or two but avoid another, and new side bets, I presume, take time to be accepted by more than a handful of players.As side bets go, the FireBet is appealing in that that it's one bet for the duration of the shooter's turn.
It's the only side bet I ever play, and I think other people play it, while not playing other side bets, for the same reason.

I saw it last Sept at Wynn. About 10 people at the table, only 1 guy playing it. $5 every 7 - $2 on each of the High and Low, $1 on the All. I was there about half an hour, and he never got paid.

Is it still at the Wynn?

Fire Bet

The Fire Bet pays based on how many unique points a shooter can make before sevening out. Please see my page on the Fire Bet for the rules rules and analysis.

Different Doubles

The Different Doubles pays based on the number of distinct doubles the shooter rolls before a seven. Please see my page on the Different Doubles for the rules rules and analysis.

Ride the Line

Details about this side bet can be found in my Ride the Line page.

Muggsy's Corner

This is a simple side bet that wins if the come out roll is a seven or a 'point-7' (point established and seven on the next roll). For the full rules and analysis, please see my page on Muggsy's Corner.

Hard Rockin' Dice

This set of three side bets, originally called the Hot Hand, can be found at the Hard Rock Cincinnati. They if various sets of totals are rolled before a seven. Please see my page on Hard Rockin' Dice for more information.

Low Dice, High Dice

This pair of bets are based on the total of the dice in one throw. The 'Low Dice' bet pays 1 to 1 on totals of 3 to 6 and 5 to 1 on a total of 2. The 'High Dice' pays 1 to 1 on totals of 8 to 11 and 5 to 1 on a total of 12. The following return table on the Low Dice bet shows the house edge is 5.56%. The High Dice bet is the opposite so has the same house edge.

Low Bet

Total	Combinations	Probability	Pays	Return
2	1	0.027778	5	0.138889
3 to 6	14	0.388889	1	0.388889
7 to 12	21	0.583333	-1	-0.583333
Total	36	1	-0.055556

Card Craps

In some jurisdictions, namely California, dice alone may not determine the outcome of a bet. In the game of 'Card Craps' 24-card decks are used each consisting of ranks ace to six in all four suits. Two cards are drawn to simulate the roll of the dice. If the suits are different the 'roll' stands. If the suits are the same, then the roll is ignored for all craps bets. The odds on all craps bets are the same as if dice were used.

However, there is an extra bet called the 'No Call.' This bet pays 3 to 1 if the two cards are suited, otherwise it loses. The house edge depends on the number of 24-card decks used as shown below.

Card Craps - No Call Bet

Decks	Probability	House Edge
1	0.217391	13.0435%
2	0.234043	6.383%
3	0.239437	4.2254%
4	0.242105	3.1579%
5	0.243697	2.521%
6	0.244755	2.0979%
7	0.245509	1.7964%
8	0.246073	1.5707%
9	0.246512	1.3953%
10	0.246862	1.2552%
11	0.247148	1.1407%
12	0.247387	1.0453%
13	0.247588	0.9646%
14	0.247761	0.8955%
15	0.247911	0.8357%
16	0.248042	0.7833%

Midway Bet

The Showboat in Atlantic City I'm told has a Midway bet in the normal location of the Big 6 and Big 8 on a total of 6 to 8 in the next roll. A hard 6 or 8 pay 2 to 1, and all other totals of 6 to 8 pay 1 to 1. The following table shows the house edge is 5.56%.

Midway Bet

Total	Combinations	Probability	Pays	Return
Hard 6,8	2	0.055556	2	0.111111
Soft 6,8	8	0.222222	1	0.222222
7	6	0.166667	1	0.166667
All other	20	0.555556	-1	-0.555556
Total	36	1	-0.055556

Bonus Craps (Small, Tall, & All)

Bonus Craps is a set of three side bets, the Small, Tall, and All. For all the details, please visit my Bonus Craps page.

Four Rolls no Seven

I hear that Sam's Town in both Las Vegas and Shreveport offer this bet. The bet wins if the shooter can go four throws without rolling a seven. A win pays 1 to 1. The odds are as follows.

Four Rolls no Seven

Event	Pays	Probability	Return
Win	1	0.482253	0.482253
Loss	-1	0.517747	-0.517747
Total	1	-0.035494

Golden Dice Challenge

The 'Golden Dice Challenge' is a craps side bet found at the MGM Grand in Detroit. The bet pays according to the number of pass line wins the player has before a seven-out. For purposes of the side bet, a win may be made either by rolling a 7 or 11 on the come out roll, or making a point. Rolling a 2, 3, or 12 on the come out roll does not affect the bet. There is a maximum win of $5,000.

The following return table shows the pays, probabilities, and return from each event, based on a $1 bet.

Golden Dice Challenge Return Table for $1 Bet

Event	Pays	Probability	Return
20 or more	5000 to 1	0.000008	0.037819
17 to 19	2000 to 1	0.000037	0.07358
15 to 16	1000 to 1	0.0001	0.099877
13 to 14	100 to 1	0.000325	0.032478
11 to 12	50 to 1	0.001056	0.052806
9 to 10	25 to 1	0.003434	0.085858
7 to 8	10 to 1	0.011168	0.111678
5 to 6	5 to 1	0.036316	0.181578
0 to 4	Loss	0.947557	-0.947557
Total	1	-0.271883

Assuming the maximum win is $5000 the following is the house edge for various bet amounts.

Golden Dice Challenge House Edge by Amout Bet

Bet	House Edge
$100	49.22%
$50	46.87%
$25	45.43%
$10	41.10%
$5	33.89%
$4	32.78%
$3	30.94%
$2	29.08%
$1	27.19%

7 Point 7

7 Point 7 is a craps side bet, which debuted at the Orleans casino in Las Vegas, in late 2008. I have also seen it at the Hard Rock in Macau under the name 'Double Trip Seven.' The bet wins if the player gets a seven on the come out roll, or the dreaded 'point 7,' where the player sevens out on his second roll. The following table shows a house edge of 5.56%.

7 Point 7 Return Table

Event	Pays	Probability	Return
7 on come out roll	2	0.166667	0.333333
Point 7	3	0.111111	0.333333
Loser	-1	0.722222	-0.722222
Total	1	-0.055556

Sharp Shooter

The 'Sharp Shooter' is a side bet in craps spotted at the Hooters casino in Las Vegas in March, 2009. I hear it was removed in 2014.

The bet is made when a new shooter takes the dice, and pays according to how many times he makes a point. The following table shows what each number of points made pays and the probability. Pays have been converted to a 'to one' basis, to be consistent with the rest of this page. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 21.87%.

Sharp Shooter — Return Table

Event	Pays	Probability	Return
10 or more	299	0.000122	0.03644
9	199	0.000178	0.035474
8	99	0.000439	0.043461
7	49	0.001081	0.052975
6	29	0.002662	0.077212
5	19	0.006557	0.12458
4	9	0.016148	0.145328
3	5	0.039766	0.198831
2 or less	-1	0.933047	-0.933047
Total	1	-0.218744

Double Trip Seven

I noticed this bet at the City of Dreams in Macau in August 2009. It is the same thing as the7 Point 7 bet aleady described.

Point Seven

I saw this side bet at the 2009 Global Gaming Expo, and in June 2010 at the Las Vegas Hilton. It is licensed by Casino Gaming LLC. It is a side wager made on the come out roll. If the player rolls a point, and then a seven on the second roll, the bet pays 7 to 1. All other outcomes lose. The following table shows the house edge is 11.11%.

Point Seven

Event	Pays	Probability	Return
Win	7	0.111111	0.777778
Loss	-1	0.888889	-0.888889
Total	1	-0.111111

Replay

Replay is a craps side bet I spotted at the Boulder Station on September 16, 2010. It pays if the shooter makes the same point at least 3 times before sevening out. For my full analysis, please see my page on the Replay side bet.

Twice as Nice

Twice as Nice is a side bet that has been seen at an unknown casino in Biloxi. It wins if the shooter throws any specific pair, including a total of 2 and 12, twice before a seven. For example, rolling a hard 10 twice before a 7. Wins pay 6 to 1. The following table shows a house edge of 29.40%.

Twice as Nice

Event	Pays	Probability	Return
Win	6	0.100863	0.605178
Loss	-1	0.899137	-0.899137
Total	1	-0.293959

A win of 7 to 1 would have a house edge of 19.31%, and 8 to 1 would be 9.22%.

Pete and Repeat

Pete and Repeat has also been seen at the same mystery casino in Biloxi. It wins if any total is rolled twice before a 7. Wins pay even money. The following table shows a house edge of 5.79%.

Pete and Repeat

Event	Pays	Probability	Return
Win	1	0.471066	0.471066
Loss	-1	0.528934	-0.528934
Total	1	-0.057868

Double D

In April 2012 I heard this side bet was being offered at the Harrington Raceway casino in Harrington, Delaware. It pays if the shooter makes at least four unique doubles before he sevens out. Come out rolls do not count. The following table shows all the possible outcomes, what they pay (on a 'to one' basis), the probability, and return. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 14.71%.

Double D

Unique Doubles	Pays	Probability	Return
6	250	0.001083	0.270633
5	50	0.006494	0.324683
4	10	0.022728	0.227282
0 to 3	-1	0.969696	-0.969696
Total	1.000000	-0.147097

Broad Bar 12

In April 2012 I heard this side bet was being offered at the Harrington Raceway casino in Harrington, Delaware. It acts like a place bet, winning on any double except 6-6, and losing on seven. The following return table shows the a house edge of 1.52%, per bet resolved.

Broad Bar 12 — Not Counting Pushes

Event	Pays	Combinations	Probability	Return
Double, except 6-6	1.166667	5	0.454545	0.530303
Seven	-1	6	0.545455	-0.545455
Total	11	1.000000	-0.015152

Hot Roller

On December 27, 2013, a member of my Wizard of Vegas forum posted about seeing this side bet at the Dover Downs casino in Delaware. It pays based on how many 'completed points' the shooter gets before rolling a seven. The shooter completes a point when he rolls it in all possible ways. For example, to complete a point of eight the shooter would need to roll a 2+6, 3+5, and 4+4. Following are the complete rules.

1. The bet may be made only on a come out roll.
2. The bet will be resolved when the shooter rolls a seven.
3. The bet pays according to how many 'completed points' the shooter achieves.
4. To complete a point, the shooter must roll the given total all possible ways. The following list shows all the ways to roll each total.
   • 4: 1+3, 2+2
   • 5: 1+4, 2+3
   • 6: 1+5, 2+4, 3+3
   • 8: 2+6, 3+5, 4+4
   • 9: 3+6, 4+5
   • 10: 4+6, 5+5
5. The player must complete at least two points to win. The following table shows how much each number of completed points pays.

Hot Roller Pay Table

Completed Points	Pays
6	200 to 1
5	50 to 1
4	20 to 1
3	10 to 1
2	5 to 1
0 or 1	Loss

The following table shows the probability and contribution to the return for all possible outcomes. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 7.50%. There are certainly much worse things you could bet on in craps.

Hot Roller Return Table

Completed Points	Pays	Probability	Return
6	200	0.000412	0.082441
5	50	0.002219	0.110968
4	20	0.007528	0.150567
3	10	0.021193	0.211934
2	5	0.056287	0.281435
0 or 1	-1	0.912360	-0.912360
Total		1.000000	-0.075013

My methodology was a random simulation of 28 billion resolved bets.

Repeater

Repeater is a set of craps side bets I noticed at the Suncoast casino in Las Vegas on April 6, 2015. The idea is that the player must roll a given number a specified number of times before a seven. For bets on 2 to 6, the player must roll that total the same number of times as the total itself. For example, for the bet on the number five to win, the shooter must roll 5 fives before a seven. For totals of 8 to 12, the player must roll the total 14 less whatever the total is. For example, on a total of 11, the player must roll an eleven 14-11=3 times before a seven.

The following is what each specific bet pays:

• 2: 40 for 1
• 3: 50 for 1
• 4: 65 for 1
• 5: 80 for 1
• 6: 90 for 1
• 8: 90 for 1
• 9: 80 for 1
• 10: 65 for 1
• 11: 50 for 1
• 12: 40 for 1

The following table shows the probability of winning and house edge of each bet.

Repeater — Suncoast Rules

Bet	Pays (for 1)	Probability	House Edge
2	40	0.020408	0.183673
3	50	0.015625	0.218750
4	65	0.012346	0.197531
5	80	0.010240	0.180800
6	90	0.008820	0.206209
8	90	0.008820	0.206209
9	80	0.010240	0.180800
10	65	0.012346	0.197531
11	50	0.015625	0.218750
12	40	0.020408	0.183673

At Caesars Palace I noticed they added a 'Dealer Envy' win to the same Suncoast pay table above. The following table shows the return to the player, the dealer, and the total.

Repeater — Caesars Palace Dealer Envy Rules

Dice Total	Number Needed	Player Win	Dealer Envy	Player Return	Dealer Return	Total Return
2	2	40	2	81.63%	4.08%	85.71%
3	3	50	3	78.13%	4.69%	82.81%
4	4	65	4	80.25%	4.94%	85.19%
5	5	80	5	81.92%	5.12%	87.04%
6	6	90	6	79.38%	5.29%	84.67%
8	6	90	6	79.38%	5.29%	84.67%
9	5	80	5	81.92%	5.12%	87.04%
10	4	65	4	80.25%	4.94%	85.19%
11	3	50	3	78.13%	4.69%	82.81%
12	2	40	2	81.63%	4.08%	85.71%

It should be noted that the player can achieve the same thing by parlaying place/buy bets. Here is the same chart for the better of place and buy bets. This assumes a buy bet on the 4 with commission on a win only (effective odds of 59 for 20), place bet on the 5 paying 7 to 5, and place bet on the 6 paying 7 to 6.

All Tall All Small Craps Las Vegas

Place/Buy Parlay Strategy

Bet	Pays (for 1)	Probability	House Edge
4	75.73	0.012346	0.065018
5	79.63	0.010240	0.184627
6	103.46	0.008820	0.087534

Note how the house edge is lower on the 4 and 6 making place/buy bets, but greater on the 5.

According to the patent application for the Repeater Bets there are some other variants, as follows:

• Variant 1: Come out rolls don't count. In this version, the player can only lose on a 'seven out' but any numbers rolled on a come out roll don't help either. The patent application doesn't specifically say that other numbers on a come out roll don't help, but it is implied by saying that the casino may choose to let the player turn the repeater bets on and off on a come out roll. Why would any player turn them off if the player could only advance on a come out roll and not lose?
• Variant 2: The player may also bet on a 8, 9, 10, 11, or 12. The win and number of rolls required are the same as the mirror image number below seven. For example, a player must roll 6 eights on the eight bet, which pays 90 for 1.
• Variant 3: The player may also bet on a 8, 9, 10, 11, or 12. However, unlike variant 2, the player must still achieve the given number that many times to win. For example, for a bet on eight, the shooter must roll 8 eights before a seven to win. The odds under this variant are shown below.

Repeater — 'Variant 3' rules

Bet	Pays (for 1)	Probability	House Edge
2	40	0.020408163265	0.183673
3	50	0.015625000000	0.218750
4	65	0.012345679012	0.197531
5	80	0.010240000000	0.180800
6	90	0.008819905157	0.206209
8	400	0.001822294454	0.271082
9	2,500	0.000262144000	0.344640
10	25,000	0.000016935088	0.576623
11	100,000	0.000000238419	0.976158
12	50,000,000	0.000000000072	0.996388

Under 7, Over 7

All Small All Tall Craps Chairs

The over and under 7 are a pair of side bets I noticed at the New York, New York on January 6, 2017. You can find them where the Big 6 and 8 bets used to be. Both bets pay even money bets and win if the next roll is over/under a 7. So, a total of 7 causes both to lose. The probability of winning is 15/36=41.67% and the house edge is 16.67% (ouch!).

Hard Way Place Bets

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On May 30, 2017 I noticed place bets on the hard ways on the craps tables at the Orleans casino in Las Vegas. These would win if the specified hard way, for example 5-5, where rolled before a total of seven. Each bet pays 5 to 1.

The following return table shows a house edge of 14.29%, ignoring rolls that neither win nor lose.

Hard Way Place Bets

Bet	Pays	Combinations	Probability	Return
Win	5	1	0.142857	0.714286
Loss	-1	6	0.857143	-0.857143
Total	7	1.000000	-0.142857

Internal Links

• How the house edge for each bet is derived, in brief.
• The house edge of all the major bets on both a per-bet made and per-roll basis
• Dice Control Experiments. The results of two experiments on skillful dice throwing.
• Dice Control Advantage. The player advantage, assuming he can influence the dice.
• Craps variants. Alternative rules and bets such as the Fire Bet, Crapless Craps, and Card Craps.
• California craps. How craps is played in California using playing cards.
• Play Craps. Craps game using cards at the Viejas casino in San Diego.
• Number of Rolls Table. Probability of a shooter lasting 1 to 200 rolls before a seven-out.
• Ask the Wizard. See craps questions I've answered about:
• Simple Craps game. My simple Java craps game.

External Links

• Las Vegas craps survey — The max odds bet allowed at each casino.

6 And 8 Craps Strategy

Written by: Michael Shackleford